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MTU LUG meeting Minutes November 1st, 2007<br />
<br />
Shell Access<br />
Problem? Who gets access?<br />
Someone disabled Jon's account?<br />
He removed everyone's shell access as security lock down<br />
Mary: He gave impression that he wouldn't remove access<br />
4 accounts disabled<br />
Mary: He's not attentive to needs of people on server<br />
Active not passive attention<br />
Kyle's sudo taken away (kyle is VP) given back<br />
Brian: Don't remember turning off Jon's account<br />
Maybe disabled your's after turning off mine<br />
Was in the middle of working on mirrors<br />
should of contacted in person<br />
<br />
Brian: Only officers should have account<br />
mistake on both sides<br />
Mary: Accounts should have time limit<br />
Brian: Devree over stepped bounds<br />
In channel talking about stuff (#cael)<br />
Jon added v3ritas to channel when unwanted<br />
He removed brian's access to server<br />
<br />
Mernerva died?<br />
Stuff still not working<br />
Too busy to maintain server?<br />
where is mirnerva? = Jon's house<br />
Motherboard is dead<br />
<br />
Boat-Load of accounts disabled?<br />
Officers have accounts?<br />
by default? yes- then have a fall back<br />
Single account for officers? limited sudo access?<br />
Share account? no... then not accountable<br />
Easy to cover tracks :(<br />
If you have someone smart then it doesn't matter.<br />
<br />
Account for each person - limited access<br />
<br />
Jon will e-mail what He did to Jon so Jon can fix it<br />
Jon D. proven untrustworthy because he doesn't listen<br />
<br />
Jon D. gets reported to public safety if hack back on server<br />
<br />
E-mail list of all accounts (and status) to Secritary<br />
<br />
Delegation of Duties<br />
Mary: Jon D. claimed to have greater authority then officers<br />
Brian: He's good at what he does<br />
Kyle: Server Op is given explicit control of services<br />
IRC stuff not in constitution and not electable<br />
Kyle: ---<br />
Mary: Process create Bylaws so that there's still a review<br />
Kyle: Has to have time period before hand<br />
ByLaws still need approval of office of student affair<br />
Mary: Need way to decide authorities not just duties<br />
"user authorization" delegate access on server?<br />
<br />
Stuff doesn't seem to be getting done<br />
<br />
Meeting Minutes need to be up online somewhere<br />
Write protect the wiki pages? (backup to central storage?)<br />
<br />
jon <-> dark communication improvements<br />
<br />
student access to server only?<br />
Trust of people off campus?<br />
Delegation authority allowed to non students? semi-permanent<br />
Services handled by people at Uni?<br />
<br />
Mirror Status<br />
Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo should be working<br />
Brian: Mirrors most important function of server<br />
Huge service to people in the dorms<br />
Never noes what's broken? no one complains<br />
Broken so long no idea what is supposed to be there<br />
We are official mirrors for several things<br />
Makes us look really bad if stuff is constantly down<br />
Telcom hasn't complained about bandwidth recently<br />
Last year we had them cap us to 10Mbit out to off campus<br />
Up out outbound? Maybe once mirrors are working<br />
Talk to Shane<br />
(Distro)-announce sign up?<br />
extra e-mail account to monitor stuff<br />
synthia lug e-mail thingy<br />
keep mirrors up to date<br />
<br />
How long to keep releases?<br />
Like to keep a couple versions<br />
(no one updates instantly)<br />
<br />
RAID 5 so one drive can die<br />
Drives still under warranty<br />
Front end server is okay, filer SUCKS<br />
<br />
New hardware list ready for next meeting<br />
<br />
30 Second Administration Tips<br />
cron - 'man cron'<br />
'man 5 crontab'<br />
backups - backup PC, it's kinda nifty<br />
sudo - superuser do!<br />
nfs - not secure<br />
<br />
Ad-Hoc networks?<br />
If you're in the middle of a field you can network :)<br />
Not all cards can act as APs<br />
<br />
Constitution<br />
Amend to allow by-laws?<br />
Extra stuff is listed in Wiki, but not really official<br />
Need way to react faster?<br />
<br />
Treasure<br />
status of money request?<br />
Mary want it? NO!<br />
Never shows up to meetings<br />
<br />
Should impeach? to get stuff back and close security hole<br />
Ask him to step down?<br />
<br />
Vote to impeach? Kyle<br />
seconded Brandon C.<br />
15 to impeach, 2 abstain Pow! gone.<br />
<br />
Nominations for new Treasurer?<br />
<br />
Kyle nominates Long haired guy<br />
declines<br />
Mary nominates Andrew<br />
declines<br />
Kyle nominates Jon K.<br />
Accepted<br />
<br />
Student Org space<br />
We can put a student usable computer in there.<br />
<br />
Backup of server stuff<br />
Config stuff IRCd<br />
~30 Meg in Backup PC?<br />
DCS charging for storage?<br />
Jon W. will take care of it.<br />
<br />
Alumni Offering Hardware?<br />
Should try and get anything<br />
maybe wait till USG stuff (and money requests) settle<br />
<br />
Boot without CD?<br />
Floppies<br />
debootstrap<br />
netboot<br />
<br />
Open Moko<br />
Nifty open source cell phone<br />
Developer price >$400<br />
Base price ~$350<br />
When Wifi added then then ~$450<br />
Mary wouldn't mind one being donated<br />
<br />
END<br />
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<div><pre><br />
MTU LUG meeting Minutes November 1st, 2007<br />
<br />
Shell Access<br />
Problem? Who gets access?<br />
Someone disabled Jon's account?<br />
He removed everyone's shell access as security lock down<br />
Mary: He gave impression that he wouldn't remove access<br />
4 accounts disabled<br />
Mary: He's not attentive to needs of people on server<br />
Active not passive attention<br />
Kyle's sudo taken away (kyle is VP) given back<br />
Brian: Don't remember turning off Jon's account<br />
Maybe disabled your's after turning off mine<br />
Was in the middle of working on mirrors<br />
should of contacted in person<br />
<br />
Brian: Only officers should have account<br />
mistake on both sides<br />
Mary: Accounts should have time limit<br />
Brian: Devree over stepped bounds<br />
In channel talking about stuff (#cael)<br />
Jon added v3ritas to channel when unwanted<br />
He removed brian's access to server<br />
<br />
Mernerva died?<br />
Stuff still not working<br />
Too busy to maintain server?<br />
where is mirnerva? = Jon's house<br />
Motherboard is dead<br />
<br />
Boat-Load of accounts disabled?<br />
Officers have accounts?<br />
by default? yes- then have a fall back<br />
Single account for officers? limited sudo access?<br />
Share account? no... then not accountable<br />
Easy to cover tracks :(<br />
If you have someone smart then it doesn't matter.<br />
<br />
Account for each person - limited access<br />
<br />
Jon will e-mail what He did to Jon so Jon can fix it<br />
Jon D. proven untrustworthy because he doesn't listen<br />
<br />
Jon D. gets reported to public safety if hack back on server<br />
<br />
E-mail list of all accounts (and status) to Secritary<br />
<br />
Delegation of Duties<br />
Mary: Jon D. claimed to have greater authority then officers<br />
Brian: He's good at what he does<br />
Kyle: Server Op is given explicit control of services<br />
IRC stuff not in constitution and not electable<br />
Kyle: ---<br />
Mary: Process create Bylaws so that there's still a review<br />
Kyle: Has to have time period before hand<br />
ByLaws still need approval of office of student affair<br />
Mary: Need way to decide authorities not just duties<br />
"user authorization" delegate access on server?<br />
<br />
Stuff doesn't seem to be getting done<br />
<br />
Meeting Minutes need to be up online somewhere<br />
Write protect the wiki pages? (backup to central storage?)<br />
<br />
jon <-> dark communication improvements<br />
<br />
student access to server only?<br />
Trust of people off campus?<br />
Delegation authority allowed to non students? semi-permanent<br />
Services handled by people at Uni?<br />
<br />
Mirror Status<br />
Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo should be working<br />
Brian: Mirrors most important function of server<br />
Huge service to people in the dorms<br />
Never noes what's broken? no one complains<br />
Broken so long no idea what is supposed to be there<br />
We are official mirrors for several things<br />
Makes us look really bad if stuff is constantly down<br />
Telcom hasn't complained about bandwidth recently<br />
Last year we had them cap us to 10Mbit out to off campus<br />
Up out outbound? Maybe once mirrors are working<br />
Talk to Shane<br />
(Distro)-announce sign up?<br />
extra e-mail account to monitor stuff<br />
synthia lug e-mail thingy<br />
keep mirrors up to date<br />
<br />
How long to keep releases?<br />
Like to keep a couple versions<br />
(no one updates instantly)<br />
<br />
RAID 5 so one drive can die<br />
Drives still under warranty<br />
Front end server is okay, filer SUCKS<br />
<br />
New hardware list ready for next meeting<br />
<br />
30 Second Administration Tips<br />
cron - 'man cron'<br />
'man 5 crontab'<br />
backups - backup PC, it's kinda nifty<br />
sudo - superuser do!<br />
nfs - not secure<br />
<br />
Ad-Hoc networks?<br />
If you're in the middle of [http://www.sikisip.com a] field you can network :)<br />
Not all cards can act as APs<br />
<br />
Constitution<br />
Amend to allow by-laws?<br />
Extra stuff is listed in Wiki, but not really official<br />
Need way to react faster?<br />
<br />
Treasure<br />
status of money request?<br />
Mary want it? NO!<br />
Never shows up to meetings<br />
<br />
Should impeach? to get stuff back and close security hole<br />
Ask him to step down?<br />
<br />
Vote to impeach? Kyle<br />
seconded Brandon C.<br />
15 to impeach, 2 abstain Pow! gone.<br />
<br />
Nominations for new Treasurer?<br />
<br />
Kyle nominates Long haired guy<br />
declines<br />
Mary nominates Andrew<br />
declines<br />
Kyle nominates Jon K.<br />
Accepted<br />
<br />
Student Org space<br />
We can put a student usable computer in there.<br />
<br />
Backup of server stuff<br />
Config stuff IRCd<br />
~30 Meg in Backup PC?<br />
DCS charging for storage?<br />
Jon W. will take care of it.<br />
<br />
Alumni Offering Hardware?<br />
Should try and get anything<br />
maybe wait till USG stuff (and money requests) settle<br />
<br />
Boot without CD?<br />
Floppies<br />
debootstrap<br />
netboot<br />
<br />
Open Moko<br />
Nifty open source cell phone<br />
Developer price >$400<br />
Base price ~$350<br />
When Wifi added then then ~$450<br />
Mary wouldn't mind one being donated<br />
<br />
END<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
[[Category:Meeting Minutes]]<br />
[[Category:07-08 School year]]</div>78.176.103.131