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<p><b>New page</b></p><div># Allen brought the HGST Drives to the meeting<br />
## Hoping to tinker with the firmware to fix the firmware lock preventing them from working on our servers<br />
## More info at [[Locked HGST drives]]<br />
# Presentation from Lucas on X11/Wayland!<br />
## History of X<br />
### Evolved from it's predecessor W<br />
### Stallman was actually at MIT when X was being developed<br />
#### Recommended they use the GPL<br />
#### They decided not to, because working with Stallman was "challenging"<br />
## X terminology<br />
## Problems with X<br />
## Wayland enters the scene<br />
## History of Wayland<br />
## What's a Compositor?<br />
## X vs Wayland<br />
### It's up to you!<br />
### X typically has better compatibility<br />
### Wayland typically has better latency and smoothness<br />
# Thoughts?<br />
## Linux is very fragmented<br />
### Wayland compositors have been criticized as inviting fragmentation<br />
#### KDE has their own implementation<br />
#### GNOME has their own implementation<br />
#### wlroots is used by most WMs, but even then projects like Hyprland are splitting off<br />
#### We may see a lot of fragmentation in the future<br />
### Josh brings up why do we need this much fragmentation?<br />
#### This is basically the same argument the BSD guys used against Linux in the early 90's<br />
#### We have a bunch of different init systems<br />
##### systemd<br />
##### openrc<br />
##### runit<br />
##### upstart<br />
##### s6+66<br />
##### dinit<br />
#### Audio too<br />
##### ALSA, used to be standard but limited<br />
##### then JACK<br />
##### pulseaudio<br />
##### pipewire<br />
#### all the reverse shims for backwards compatibility<br />
#### We should just switch to plan9<br />
#### Make Zayland with ZXWayland and ZWayland for backwards compatibility<br />
# Drive flashing<br />
## i forgor screwdriver<br />
## Josh knows about a blog ost of someone doing something similar, says it's his "his favorite blog post"<br />
# Talking about Fall Break<br />
## Dorms are like a ghost town<br />
## A lot of classes were cancelled today and tomorrow, looks like profs want an early break too<br />
# Bad apple over telnet<br />
## <code>telnet lug.mtu.edu</code><br />
## doesn't work off-campus<br />
## Could we maybe get a whitelist?<br />
## It's not even a 'real' telnet server, just sends static C char arrays for each frame<br />
# NCSA Infra<br />
## They have their own internal mirrors server<br />
### They host Rocky since they use it internally<br />
### Maybe we can host Rocky?<br />
### We were also asked to host Alma and Raspberry Pi, we plan to do it after the mirrors rebuild<br />
## They're working on trying out XCP-NG<br />
### Proxmox doesn't work when AD Groups have spaces in their names<br />
### NCSA not very happy with proxmox rn<br />
### I've also ran into issues with multi-tenant clusters<br />
### Want to hear how it goes, LUG might want to switch over<br />
### Proxmox is ''okay'', but there's a lot of improvements that could be made</div>D2wn