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Re: [lug-l] Shirt Order Form



Since it is the Linux/UNIX Users Group, I think we should do a t-shirt
design based on Beastie for once.

What color should his shoes be for our shirts?

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 08:29:59 -0500, Derek LaHousse wrote:
> I would take the other opinion, and say that GNU is a component of a
> system that need not include Linux.  It's just the best of possible
> options.  So yes, GNU/Linux is a valid descriptor and I applaud you in
> it's use, Charles.  I run Debian/GNU/Linux, given I could be using
> Debian/GNU/Hurd or possibly Android/Linux.
> 
> Also, congrats on learning something, and don't let nay-sayers make you
> feel small for them having known one thing that you didn't.
> 
> http://xkcd.com/1053/
> 
> Derek
> 
> On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 00:20 -0500, Brandon Dusseau wrote:
> > That's sort of an unnecessary explanation, and doesn't really have
> > anything to do with the shirts.
> > 
> > 
> > Distributions of Linux do pretty much always include GNU software with
> > the kernel. This is absolutely true. However, it's very uncommon to
> > refer to it as GNU/Linux anymore, not because of ignorance, but
> > because the GNU utilities are mere components of the operating system.
> > The Linux kernel and associated modules are what's doing all the work
> > anyway. Everything else is just for the sake of user interaction.
> > 
> > 
> > You are correct in suggesting that GNU utilities are necessary for
> > useful operation in the Linux operating system, but to suggest that
> > Linux is a mere addition to the "GNU system" is just silly.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I can also tell you that many of the people on this list would
> > probably not have responded so nicely to such a statement. Please do
> > your research next time, and realize that the majority, if not all, of
> > your audience is already aware of this or doesn't need to know.
> > 
> > 
> > Now, as far as the shirts go, I'll agree that the design should be
> > something that, at least somewhere, allows people to understand what
> > "LUG" is. Other than that, it should be something fun that the members
> > want to wear around, not necessarily for advertising.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Charles Cash <cfcash@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         I definitely like the idea of possibly getting a different
> >         design, but I feel maybe we could make something along the
> >         lines of "Linux Users Group" and shorten it onto LUG somewhere
> >         so that way others can somewhat learn about the club, since
> >         there plenty of Linux/ GNU users that do not know about us!
> >         But all ideas are open for discussion.  
> >         
> >         Side note:
> >         
> >         I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring
> >         to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken
> >         to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating
> >         system unto itself, but rather another free component of a
> >         fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs,
> >         shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full
> >         OS as defined by POSIX.
> >         
> >         Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system
> >         every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of
> >         events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often
> >         called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is
> >         basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
> >         
> >         There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it
> >         is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel:
> >         the program in the system that allocates the machine's
> >         resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an
> >         essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
> >         it can only function in the context of a complete operating
> >         system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU
> >         operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux
> >         added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions
> >         are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
> >         
> >         
> >         On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Daniel Bierman
> >         <daniel.bierman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                 I'm wondering if I would be in the minority if I said
> >                 that I for one would like to move away from the "Tux"
> >                 design/concept and instead move "forward" with
> >                 something a little more abstract, avantgarde, and
> >                 totally NEW and refreshing.  Something that would say:
> >                 "This is MY LUG shirt, there are many like it, but
> >                 this one is mine!
> >                 
> >                 That being said, I will go along with whatever the
> >                 group decides.  Thanks for listening
> >                 
> >                 Daniel Bierman
> >                 Lug Member
> >                 
> >                 On Jan 31, 2014 11:13 PM, "Charles Cash"
> >                 <cfcash@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                         The shirt design is currently undecided, but I
> >                         imagine it will feature Tux.  Unless anyone
> >                         else has any other ideas.
> >                         
> >                         
> >                         
> >                         On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Tyler Adam
> >                         <tjadam@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                                 What's the design this year?  (Or,
> >                                 have they been designed yet?)
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:14 PM,
> >                                 Charles Cash <cfcash@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                                 
> >                                         Hey all!
> >                                         
> >                                         
> >                                         LUG is going to be getting
> >                                         shirts, if you're interested
> >                                         in one (or more) fill out the
> >                                         following form.
> >                                         
> >                                         https://docs.google.com/a/mtu.edu/forms/d/1QxOEx7yT3SEIB4bMY-KSFyk750rPzYR1faihZWALR5M/viewform
> >                                         
> >                                         
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X(7): A program for managing terminal windows. See also screen(1).


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